It wasn't as many people still argue if Cell was or not bluffing about it. Saiyan007 wrote:How is Cell saying he can destroy a solar system not impressive at the time?No one before Cell claimed they had the power to do that.Kid buu can't destroy the universe the same way Goku or Beerus can not too mention the Gods can destroy the other world as well as the Kai realm I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'.

Piccolo doesn't surpass Frieza until he fuses with Kami imo. around 33-66% depending on who you ask, and by my numbers Piccolo has barely surpassed Frieza by the androids arc, I don't think he'd outclass him by a large enough margin to take Cooler. There's a fairly sizable gap between Grade 2 and SSJ2. Vegeta would probably need Super Saiyan Blue to truly outclass the strongest contenders of the Boo arc, in my opinion. I'm of the opinion that there was a reason that the creators had Gohan regress back to using normal Super Saiyan and had Gotenks excluded altogether. Ignoring any planet destroying shenanigans, Piccolo comes out on top. In my opinion, Piccolo is roughly as strong as Goku and Trunks were right after Goku's return to Earth, so he'd have a significant advantage, by my estimations. His fifth form is just a more efficient manifestation of the power stressed 100% state that Freeza used (sorta like comparing Super Saiyan 2 to Super Saiyan Grade 2). Honestly, I don't think Coola is much stronger than Mecha Freeza.

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